Disinformation doesn't start and end with the people behind the profiles. Someone's pulling the strings. Prof. Jonathan Ong and his "Architects of Networked Disinformation" co-author Prof. Jason Cabañes interviewed "Grace" at the bar of a 5-star hotel, which happens to connect to her luxury apartment. She's the one talking to clients and sending down instructions. From the "Catch Me If You Can" podcast powered by PumaPodcast, with support from Internews.

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