Host Ty Bruner sits down with immigration attorney Sam Smith to cut through the noise — history, policy and rhetoric collide as they reveal the human stories hidden behind headline numbers. From DACA recipients trapped in a “golden cage,” to asylum seekers facing impossible legal hurdles, this episode walks listeners through the real process, the cruel bottlenecks, and the decisions that tear families apart.

Sam translates law into living people: unlawful presence bars, visa backlogs, and third-country removals become stakes in a high-tension narrative about who we are as a nation. You’ll hear the voices of those who must choose between safety and separation, and the chilling reality of detention and displacement.

Sharp, urgent, and hopeful, this episode doesn’t just explain what’s broken — it asks what we can do next. Tune in for a clear-eyed, human-first look at immigration that asks you to rethink fear, policy, and the future we want to build.