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Can your team perform without you constantly refereeing the differences between them? That's the leadership trust question Alan, CEPA, and returning guest Melanie Palmer dig into in this episode.
Melanie Palmer of Melanie Palmer Consulting joins Alan again — and this time, they turned the tables and assessed each other. Alan took CliftonStrengths for the first time, Melanie took DISC for the first time, and they use their own results to unpack how personality and strengths assessments actually build (or break) trust on a team.
If you're a business owner or leader trying to build a team that runs well without you standing over it, this conversation gives you the language to do it.
🔔 New episodes every week. Subscribe if you're a business owner building a team, and a business, that can run without you.
⏱️ Chapters
0:22 – Welcome back, Melanie Palmer
1:03 – Melanie's CliftonStrengths results, revealed
2:15 – What CliftonStrengths actually measures
3:16 – Why "well-rounded" is a fallacy
4:21 – Melanie reads Alan's top strengths: Positivity & Individualization
5:49 – Where Individualization struggles — rigid rules and procedures
6:39 – Managing opposite strengths on the same team
7:36 – Why the owner-as-gap-bridge kills business value
8:21 – Building a strengths-based culture so you're not the referee
9:20 – Turning friction into a team asset (the "Deliberative" example)
12:15 – The sports analogy: playing people in their strength position
13:47 – Alan's DISC results — and why he and Melanie "resonate"
15:29 – Natural vs. Adaptive style, explained
17:46 – Mapping a team on the CliftonStrengths grid
18:47 – Case study: a statewide nonprofit team
21:22 – Building trust through connection and compassion
22:11 – Using assessments for conflict resolution
23:10 – The visionary/implementer partnership (Jobs & Ballmer)
24:10 – DISC clashes: high-D vs. high-S styles
25:22 – How people weaponize assessments — and how not to
30:12 – Why an outside facilitator sees what you can't
32:08 – Where to find Melanie Palmer
32:27 – Final takeaway: know yourself first
Connect with Melanie:
https://www.melaniepalmerconsulting.com/
Connect with Alan:
https://www.trustbuiltsolutions.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanbennettcepa/
#LeadershipTrust #CliftonStrengths #DISC #BusinessPodcast #TeamBuilding #BusinessOwner
Welcome back to The TrustBuilt Podcast! Host Alan Bennett sits down with culture expert Steve Blair for a deep dive into what it really takes to build and maintain a thriving organizational culture.
Steve Blair is a master at culture, people, and community who works alongside leaders and founders to create cultures where the best people can thrive. In this episode, Steve breaks down his powerful "culture stack" framework—revealing the four critical levels where culture either flourishes or falls apart.
Whether you're a founder, leader, or manager, this episode will change how you think about building culture in your organization.
👉 Learn more about how TrustBuilt helps business owners build trust-driven teams: https://www.trustbuiltsolutions.com/
⏱️ Chapters
00:25 - Welcome & Meet Steve Blair
01:16 - Steve's Mission: Creating Cultures Where People Love Their Work
02:36 - Going Deep: The Art vs. Science of Building Culture
03:22 - Two Types of Leadership: Top-Down vs. Bottom-Up
05:03 - Finding Leaders Who "Get It"
06:53 - Creating Heroes: The Power of Mentorship
09:50 - Why Culture Can't Be Left to Chance
11:12 - The Core Framework: Understanding Culture
13:45 - Defining Culture: Values, Behaviors, and Results
16:20 - The Anatomy of Culture: Breaking It Down
19:30 - The Culture Stack: Four Critical Levels
22:15 - Level 1: Vision & Leadership
24:40 - Level 2: Organizational Systems & Processes
27:10 - Level 3: Managers - The Linchpin of Culture
29:45 - Level 4: Teams & Daily Work
32:15 - Where Most Culture Initiatives Fail
33:18 - Leveraging Tools at the Right Level
34:28 - Communication Strategies Across Levels
36:17 - Connecting Individual Purpose to Organizational Purpose
37:21 - The Danger of Resource Gaps
38:33 - Culture You Design vs. Culture You Deserve
39:23 - What Resources Really Mean (It's Not Pizza Fridays)
40:09 - Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up
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Connect with Steve
💻 https://www.linkedin.com/in/blairsteve/
🌐 https://www.fulcrumcollective.com/
When your nonprofit board isn't functioning, everything suffers—fundraising stalls, strategy gets murky, and passionate leaders burn out trying to do it all.
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, host Alan Bennett sits down with Melanie Palmer, founder of M. Palmer Consulting, to explore how nonprofits can build high-performing boards that drive real impact. From victim services to arts organizations, Melanie shares powerful lessons on strategic planning, meaningful board engagement, and why clarity is the foundation of everything.
Together, they dig into how to recruit the right board members, the critical role of strategic planning, why CliftonStrengths assessments transform team dynamics, and how to align your board with your mission—not just fill seats.
👉 Whether you lead a startup nonprofit or manage a mature organization, this episode will help you see trust and strategic clarity as your ultimate competitive advantage.
Learn more about how TrustBuilt helps business owners build trust-driven teams:
https://www.trustbuiltsolutions.com/
⏱️ Chapters
1:19 – Meet Melanie Palmer: From Victim Services to Nonprofit Consulting
4:38 – What It Really Means to Be on a Nonprofit Board
6:17 – The Non-Negotiable: Passion for Mission (Not Resume Building)
11:00 – The Three Questions Every Board Should Ask Before Recruiting
15:00 – How CliftonStrengths Unlocks Board Potential
22:00 – Why Nonprofits and For-Profits Have the Same Leadership Challenges
30:00 – The Hidden Gap: When No One Is Driving the Bus
35:00 – How a Strategic Plan Fixes Most Board Dysfunction
37:15 – The Fundraising Plan Most Organizations Forget to Create
45:13 – Starting with Assessment: Where Is Your Board Now?
47:24 – "It's Hard to Read the Label from Inside the Bottle"
48:05 – Connect with Melanie Palmer Consulting
Connect with M. Palmer Consulting
🌐 https://melaniepalmerconsulting.com
💼 Schedule a free consultation to assess your nonprofit's needs
Are you a business owner who is ready to break free from the day-to-day grind & build a self-sustaining company?
👉 Set up a time to talk to Alan
🔗 https://app.reclaim.ai/m/alan-trustbuiltsolutions/quick-meeting
What if the secret to building a thriving business isn't just about systems, it's about empathy?
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, I sit down with Jim Robinson, CEO, founder, speaker, and coach with 41 years of business experience. Jim shares the powerful moment that changed everything: realizing he needed a business coach when he thought he had all the answers.
What You'll Learn:
✅ The difference between empathy and sympathyand why it matters
✅ How to validate employees individually while building team alignment
✅ Why making every team member a trainer transforms your business
✅ The exact framework for developing trust in one-on-one and group settings
✅ How to lead teams of 5 to 500+ with the same core principles
Learn more about how TrustBuilt helps business owners build trust-driven teams: https://www.trustbuiltsolutions.com/
⏱️ Chapters:
01:26 - The Realization That Changed Everything
02:02 - From Business Owner to Accredited Business Coach
03:33 - What is Leading with Empathy? (Not Sympathy)
04:00 - Empathy in the Workplace: Putting Yourself in Their Shoes
05:12 - The Power of Emotional Connection with Your Team
05:41 - Empathy vs. Sympathy: The Well Analogy
06:24 - Why You Shouldn't Anchor Bad Behaviors
07:40 - The First Two Weeks: Intentional Onboarding
08:09 - How Quick Trust Develops When You Show Up with Empathy
09:00 - The Danger of Over-Tasking New Hires
10:06 - Creating Purpose & Clarity for Your Team
11:17 - Why Small Businesses Fail: The Team Development Gap
12:55 - The Mentor Myth: Why You Need the Right Guide
15:32 - How to Validate Team Members & Get Their Input
17:17 - Why Business Owners Struggle to Let Go
19:21 - The Bottleneck Problem: When Everything Runs Through You
21:00 - Stop Micromanaging & Start Leading
22:27 - How to Develop Leaders Within Your Team
23:52 - What Happens When You Don't Develop Your People
26:03 - Leading Teams of 5 to 500: The Same Principles Apply
27:41 - The Greatest Success: When Your Team Speaks in Your Tone
28:09 - Validate Individually, Recognize Publicly
29:02 - The Magic Number for Direct Reports & Team Size
29:34 - What Happens When Your Team Feels Heard & Validated
31:14 - Turning Introverts Into Confident Trainers
32:15 - Jim's Monthly Regional Team Meetings: What He Asks
33:04 - The Textbook on Purpose in Organizations
33:31 - How to Connect with Jim Robinson & CGP Construction
Connect With Jim
📧 Email: [email protected]
🌐 Website: www.cgpconstruction.com
📚 Upcoming Book: "Lead with Empathy" (Co-authored with Chris Voss)
#TrustBuiltPodcast #LeadershipDevelopment #BusinessCoaching #TeamBuilding #Empathy #BusinessGrowth #Entrepreneurship #LeadWithEmpathy #ScaleYourBusiness #BusinessFreedom #TrustInBusiness #ChrisVoss #TeamDevelopment #CEOInsights
What does it take to build a thriving business at 20 years old out of a converted school bus, with no bank loan, and a product almost nobody was making?
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, host Alan Bennett sits down with Stella Rodda, founder of Zenith Coffee Company, a mobile coffee business built on one bold premise: coffee that's actually good for your body.
Together, Alan and Stella dig into what it really means to build a team you can trust, why hiring for personality beats hiring for a résumé, and how systems and vulnerability can coexist in a tiny mobile workspace. Alan also unpacks the three pillars of trust — clarity, connection, and consistency — and how Stella is already applying them without even realizing it.
👉 If you're a business owner who's doing everything yourself and wondering how to step back without things falling apart, this episode is for you.
Learn more about how TrustBuilt helps business owners build trust-driven teams: trustbuiltsolutions.com
⏱️ Chapters
0:30 – Welcome & Intro: What Is Zenith Coffee Company?
2:25 – The Concept: Coffee That's Actually Good for Your Body
3:16 – How She Funded It
8:27 – Alan's Three Buckets
11:27 – The Trust Challenge: Handing Your Business Off to Other People
13:04 – Understanding Your Behavioral Style as a Leader
15:47 – Why Most Hiring Posts Attract the Wrong People
21:46 – How Zenith Got 150 Applications in 4 Hours
24:11 – Monthly Meetings, Feedback Loops & Leaning Into Strengths
26:59 – The Three Pillars of Trust: Clarity, Connection & Consistency
28:55 – Why Recognition Can Backfire (and How to Get It Right)
33:24 – The Missing Piece in Most Onboarding Processes
37:30 – Employee Engagement: Communicating Constraints to Your Team
41:29 – How Stella's Team Solves Problems Together
44:13 – Exit Planning, Business Value & Reducing Owner Dependence
47:26 – Where to Find Zenith Coffee Co
Connect with Stella & Zenith Coffee
🌐 https://www.zenithcoffeeco.com/
💻 https://www.linkedin.com/in/stella-rodda-a9a440204/
Most business owners don’t have a marketing problem.
They have a leadership alignment problem.
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, Alan sits down with Marc Ensign, founder of LoudMouse, to unpack what a Fractional CMO actually does, why most marketing agencies fail businesses, and how misalignment between sales and marketing quietly destroys trust and revenue.
If you’re spending money on marketing but unsure what’s working—or frustrated by silos between departments—this episode will help you regain clarity, control, and confidence.
👉To learn more about how to build a business that runs without you subscribe to The TrustBuilt Podcast
⏱️Chapters
01:00 – What Is a Fractional CMO? (And Why Small Businesses Need One)
04:35 – From Broadway to Business: Marketing Is About Being Heard
08:20 – Why Most Marketing Agencies Work in Silos
11:20 – Sales vs. Marketing
16:04 – The Metrics That Actually Matter
22:22 – Marketing KPIs Every Service Business Should Measure
28:34 – Client Retention & Trust
31:44 – Why Busy Marketing Doesn’t Equal Growth
33:18 – Free Marketing Resources & How to Use AI
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Connect with Marc & LoudMouse
🌐 https://loudmouse.com/
💻 https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcensign/
What do youth sports, coaching, and business leadership have in common?
More than you think.
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, Alan sits down with Luke Gromer, founder of RYG Athletics, and operator of Nike Sports Camps across multiple states. What starts as a conversation about youth sports quickly becomes a masterclass on building trust, creating engagement, and developing culture that actually lasts.
If you're a business owner trying to build a team that performs without you micromanaging every move, this episode will hit home.
If you want your business to grow beyond you, this conversation is required listening.
👉To learn more about how to build a business that runs without you subscribe to The TrustBuilt Podcast
⏱️ Chapters
05:00 – The Leadership Tension Every Owner Faces
11:00 – The Foundation of Every High-Performance Culture
15:00 – When You Lose the Locker Room (Or the Team at Work)
24:30 – Scaling Trust: How to Build a Culture Across Multiple Locations
28:00 – The “Secret Sauce”: Connection + Competence = Trust
31:00 – Recognition as a Leadership Tool
36:00 – Creating Memorable Moments That Build Loyalty
44:00 – How to Design an Experience People Want to Come Back To
46:30 – The Legacy Question: What Will Your Team Say About You?
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Connect with Luke Gromer
💻 https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-gromer/
In this episode, Alan Bennett sits down with Solomon Burchfield, founder of New Beginnings NWA, to explore what business leaders can learn about trust, accountability, purpose, and culture from an organization working with chronically homeless individuals.
While Solomon leads a nonprofit, the leadership lessons apply directly to business owners who want stronger teams, deeper buy-in, and a culture that doesn’t collapse without them.
⏱️Chapters
02:00 — Understanding Your “Customer”
04:20 — The Hidden Cost of Mistrust in Leadership
08:10 — Trauma, Behavior, and Why Rules Alone Don’t Work
11:15 — “You Don’t Become Homeless When You Run Out of Money”
14:45 — Building Trust Before Enforcing Accountability
17:00 — The ‘Pennies in the Cup’ Approach to Leadership
19:15 — Purpose Drives Engagement
22:40 — Compassionate Accountability That Actually Works
26:40 — Leadership as Gardening, Not Controlling
30:30 — Horizontal Accountability vs. Top-Down Control
34:15 — Recognition, Care, and Why It’s Free but Rare
38:25 — What Business Owners Can Learn from Nonprofit Leadership
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Connect with Solomon & New Beginnings NWA
💻 https://newbeginningsnwa.org/
What happens when the biggest obstacle to growth isn’t your team, your market, or your systems, but you?
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, Alan Bennett sits down with Amanda Horn to unpack how self-awareness, trust, and emotional regulation directly impact leadership, decision-making, and long-term business sustainability.
Amanda shares her powerful personal journey and introduces her GRACE Toolkit, a practical framework leaders can use to interrupt destructive patterns, rebuild self-trust, and lead with steadiness instead of burnout.
This conversation is for business owners who feel stretched thin, stuck in reaction mode, and ready to regain control—without hustling harder.
⏱️Chapters
02:15 – The Moment Everything Breaks: Rock Bottom, Wake-Up Calls & Leadership Growth
05:40 – The GRACE Toolkit: A Framework for Breaking Self-Sabotage
09:50 – Self-Sabotage at Work: Rationalization, Perfectionism, and Control
14:10 – Why Leaders Struggle to Trust Themselves (and How to Rebuild It)
18:00 – Perfectionism vs. Progress: Why ‘Good Enough’ Builds Better Businesses
23:45 – One Step at a Time: Creating Real Change Without Overhauling Your Life
29:40 – Morning Habits, Mental Nutrition, and Leadership Energy
35:30 – Emotional Intelligence Is a Perishable Skill (And How to Protect It)
41:00 – Helping Leaders Who Don’t Know They’re Stuck Yet
Connect with Amanda Horn
💻 https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-thiebaud-horn/
💻 https://www.beewellyoga.com/reiki-yoga-appts
What if the thing holding your business back isn’t strategy… but trust?
In this episode of The TrustBuilt Podcast, Alan Bennett is back with therapists and business owners Beth Tellez and Stacey Bankston to unpack one of the most misunderstood leadership challenges business owners face: vulnerability, accountability, and trust inside growing teams.
They explore why many owners believe they have a healthy culture—yet still face high turnover, disengaged employees, and a business that can’t run without them. This conversation bridges therapy, leadership, and business ownership to show how trust is built (or broken) in real time—and why it directly impacts scalability, retention, and exit value.
If you’re tired of carrying everything yourself and wondering why your team won’t fully step up, this episode is for you.
👉To learn more about how to build a business that runs without you subscribe to The TrustBuilt Podcast
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⏱️Chapters
02:10 — The Hidden Trust Problem in Owner-Dependent Businesses
05:28 — How Childhood Conditioning Shapes Leadership Behavior
08:58 — Accountability Without Fear: Reframing Leadership Responsibility
12:01 — Why Business Owners React Defensively to Accountability
16:15 — Psychological Safety: The Missing Link in Team Performance
21:00 — Designing a Team Model That Attracts the Right People
25:14 — Alignment vs. Misalignment in Partnerships & Teams
32:17 — Scarcity vs. Insecurity: What’s Really Driving Control Issues
37:21 — Kinship-Based Leadership & Why It Scales Better
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Connect with Beth & Stacey
🌐 https://www.creativenwa.com/
From the publisher's feed
The TrustBuilt Podcast is for business owners ready to break free from the daily grind, scale with confidence, and create lasting value.
Hosted by Alan…
What You’ll Get from Each Episode:
🎙 Expert Conversations – Insights from top business leaders, exit strategists, and entrepreneurs who’ve built self-sustaining businesses.
📈 Real-World Case Studies – Stories of business owners who optimized operations and positioned for long-term success.
💡 Actionable Takeaways – Strategies you can apply immediately to step back, scale up, and build a business that works for you.