Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) is currently under attack. Chris, Sharif, and Ismael break down DEI, its origins in corporate culture, and why those on the right are so focused on attacking it. The guys examine the limitations and challenges of DEI, as well as the role of equity in addressing systemic barriers. The conversation highlights the need for representation and the ongoing struggle for racial justice and equality. The conversation touches on expensive DEI consultants, "overwoke" DEI programs, and highlights the need for clear goals and progress in these conversations.

Takeaways

• DEI programs are being targeted and attacked by right-wing think tanks, threatening progress in racial equality.
   
• DEI has its roots in corporate culture and can be seen as an insurance policy against racial discrimination lawsuits.
   
• Equity is an essential component of DEI, aiming to interrupt systemic barriers and create a more just society.
   
• When used in schools, these programs should have clear goals and measurable progress to avoid becoming ineffective and costly.
   
• The business of DEI consulting can sometimes prioritize profit over meaningful change, leading to skepticism about its effectiveness.
   
• DEI can be a part of the ongoing struggle for liberation, and its effectiveness depends on pushing for systemic change and exploiting opportunities for progress.