Travis & Tom talk about how the blatant corruption and incompetence currently seen in the new Trump/Musk administration make them nostalgic for when conspiracy theories assumed the government was actually run by evil geniuses. They talk about TV shows and movies that do conspiracy theories - particularly 'The X-Files' and 'Stargate', why people believe in conspiracy theories, and whether or not we should even use the term "conspiracy theories".

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"Gay Frogs (Alex Jones REMIX)." YouTube, uploaded by placeboing, 22 June 2017, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8&ab_channel=placeboing