OR WHATEVER MOVIES is an entertainment podcast hosted by real-life brother and sister duo, Wesley and Iris Ichishita. Each episode is a quick, no-holds-barred discussion of a movie, television show or video.

On today's episode, the siblings talk about whether you should give two poops about Netflix original film The Two Popes, the humanization of the papacy, and the reign of Anthony McCarten. Contains spoilers. Thank you for listening and your support.