The Real Debate panel gathers remotely via teleconference. Greg gives the latest Coronavirus numbers and discusses reaction to today's White House press conference, in which Trump *finally* admitted hundreds of thousands of Americans may die from the virus, but also kept gaslighting the country about what he has and hasn’t done. Chris notes some positive trends in the overall numbers. The panel then moves, with some reluctance, to a discussion of the political impact of the crisis. Based on his prior experience as a candidate during 9/11 Greg argues politics will be frozen until the crisis is over; and notes Trump’s head-to-head numbers against Joe Biden haven’t changed despite a modest improvement in his overall approval ratings. Jeff, Jerad and Phil push back, contending Trump will pay a political price for his incompetence, arguing that a rising body count in red states may force at least some Trump supporters to reassess their opinions. Chris reaffirms that Trump’s delay in responding to the circus will cost many lives, despite Trump’s new spin that a hundred thousand dead Americans is a “victory." Finally the panel discusses what Joe Biden can do to avoid getting pushed off the stage by the crisis, and maintain visibility.