Pandemic round 2… Round 3… Round 4? Covid variants are causing a new surge in infections and, as many of us may have guessed, covid could be here to stay. More countries are back in lockdown and in Florida, a condo collapsed on the same day the new infrastructure deal passed. Is the world collapsing under covid mutations or is it just infrastructure? Jack Russo talks with Dr Leonard Hayflick about the possibility of covid becoming as common as the influenza virus and how we treat this virus moving forward.