In this conversation, Phil interviews Brian Lisson about his journey in the adventure education industry. They discuss various topics, including Brian's introduction to adventure education, the value of adventure education beyond the activities, the growth and future of the industry, and advice for emerging professionals. They also touch on the challenges of commercialization and the importance of credentialing and education in the field. Takeaways;

• Be good at something and become irreplaceable in that area to increase job opportunities.
• Take advantage of opportunities to learn from others and build connections in the industry.
• The industry has seen growth, but there is a need for more focus on education and learning.
• The commercialization of adventure activities can make it challenging to communicate the unique experiences and outcomes of adventure education.
• Credentialing and standards are important for the industry's future, along with better education and learning opportunities.
• Adventure education goes beyond the activities and is about building community, relationships, and social-emotional learning.

Connect with Brian - [email protected]

Learn more about Adventureworks - adventureworks.org

Connect with Phil;

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Instagram - @verticalplaypen

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