This week on The Vocal Lab Podcast, Jason and Shelby sit down with Ben Rodgers of Pivotol for a conversation that blends identity, creativity, and the unexpected.

From the shrimp boat–style lunch where Ben and Jason first connected to the deeper questions behind the real X-factor—do we truly know ourselves?—Ben explores why the Relational Economy may matter more than talent alone.

You’ll hear why choosing your “spot” is everything, how one decision can redirect a life, and why what’s meant for you somehow finds its way.

Plus, get a first look at the new At Depth podcast launching January 1st.

Over an hour of insight, stories, and reflection—don’t miss it.

This week on The Vocal Lab, Jason and Shelby are joined by Nashville-based makeup artist and creative force Charlie Boehm. Charlie shares how his journey surprisingly began in music, a path that shaped his eye for performance, presence, and storytelling long before he ever held a makeup brush.

He opens up about the pivotal moment when legendary artist Billy B stepped into his life and shifted everything, offering the inspiration and direction that helped Charlie step fully into his artistry.

From those early sparks to the surreal experience of working with Dolly Parton, Charlie talks about what it is like to be trusted with iconic faces, the pressure, the joy, and the unexpected lessons learned along the way.

It is an episode filled with creativity, mentorship, and the magic that happens when someone finally steps into who they were meant to be.

his week, Jason and Shelby drop in for a quick checkup episode! Jason shares how watching the new Luther Vandross documentary sent him down a soulful rabbit hole — and somehow led to a real-life run-in with John Tesh. Hear how that unexpected meeting went, plus a little catch-up between the hosts you know and love.

It’s light, fun, and full of those “only on The Vocal Lab” moments. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts.

The Vocal Lab Podcast — This week, Jason, Shelby, and Carlos get a little salty about Southwest’s so-called “customer experience upgrades.” From luggage limits to seat shuffles, we’re not exactly buying the “friendly skies” vibe. Then we lighten it up (kind of) with Taylor and Travis’s engagement — and how Taylor’s once again proving she’s running the entire pop culture universe.

A little sass, a little shade, and a lot of laughs — only on The Vocal Lab Podcast.

This week, Jason and Shelby sit down with Michelle Garramone, classically trained vocalist turned artist development strategist, label founder, and mindset coach. Michelle shares her journey from performance to the business side—how she balanced artistry and strategy, building Mishi Records to empower indie artists with release planning, wellness, and sustainable growth. Whether you’ve got an album ready to drop or you’re pushing through creative blocks, this conversation is packed with tools, inspiration, and hard-won wisdom for every kind of artist.

This week, Jason and Shelby welcome rising country artist Holdyn Barder—the Newtown, PA native whose Eagles anthem “Go Birds” went viral and put Philly pride on the country map. Holdyn shares his journey from physics major to Nashville stages, opening for superstars like Luke Bryan and Darius Rucker, and the heart behind his upcoming debut album. Tune in for stories of hustle, hometown roots, and the voice carrying Philly country into the spotlight.

This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Charity Baroni, a seasoned performer and movement coach whose career has spanned the worlds of music videos, live tours, and artist development. From dancing with Taylor Swift and Beyoncé to empowering artists through movement coaching, Charity shares her journey and insights into the transformative power of performance. Tune in for an inspiring conversation on artistry, confidence, and the heart behind the movement.

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This week, Jason, Shelby, and even Carlos dive into one of the biggest headlines in music: Higgsfield Records has officially signed its first AI artist, KION. What does this mean for singers, songwriters, and the industry at large? Is AI a threat, a tool, or the future of collaboration? We unpack the possibilities, the risks, and where human artistry still shines brightest.

Adam Levine’s new album Love Is Like has fans talking — his voice sounds noticeably different. In this episode, Jason and Shelby unpack why singers choose to change their voices, whether it’s a natural evolution or a risky experiment, and what it means for both artistry and audience expectations. Is changing your sound a smart move, or can it cost you your identity as a singer?

This week, Jason and Shelby are joined by Broadway’s own Allison Bailey, best known for her sparkling turn as Glinda in Wicked. She shares her journey from Florida stages to national tours, life on Broadway, and what it takes to bring such an iconic role to life night after night. Plus—her newest projects beyond Oz. Don’t miss this inspiring conversation with one of musical theatre’s brightest voices!