Warning: This episode contains strong language.

Although Vice President Kamala Harris has officially been a presidential candidate for only about a week, the race to become her running mate is well underway.

Lisa Lerer, a national political correspondent for The New York Times, takes us inside the selection process.

Guest: Lisa Lerer, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.

Background reading: 

• What’s more exciting than a veepstakes? A surprise veepstakes.
• Take a look at the leading contenders to be Ms. Harris’s running mate.

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