Sarah and Daniel have a lively, relatable conversation about 'The War of Art' by Steven Pressfield, laughing over how closely the book calls out procrastination and creative self-sabotage. They share real changes they’ve made—like putting on running shoes or sitting down at a laptop each morning—and discuss the comfort and usefulness of seeing creative fears as normal. They both agree that adopting a professional attitude, reframing anxiety as a guide, and little daily rituals are gamechangers for creative work.

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