Welcome dear listeners as we confront what some refer to as the defining issue of our times: Palestine. We welcome as our guest arts communicator and educator, Marianna Ellenberg who has consistently integrated avant-garde and experimental music into her stage productions. She offers a personal perspective onto the blowback of the latest, devastating round of bloody conflict onto the arts world, onto periodicals, residences, galleries and more. Along the way we discuss the motivations and intricacies behind identifications with this conflict and attempt to parse out the perennially difficult distinction between antizionism and antisemitism. We also explore the "theater" of protest," and the gaps that often emerge between the making of effective statements and serving the actual interests of those suffering on the ground. Thank you for your time and attention and please do like, review, rate, and subscribe .