In this episode, we reminisce about life before kids, reflect on how we prepared (or didn’t) to grow our families, and unpack how becoming parents tested our marriages in ways we never expected.

From communication breakdowns to therapy breakthroughs, this conversation gets real about what it takes to stay committed when you’re both running on empty. We even put our husbands in the hot seat to see how well we actually know each other and talk honestly about staying married when love isn’t the problem—burnout is.