So many on the American Left call it a right-wing trope. Others say that it’s the real power in Washington, a permanent power that transcends presidential administrations. John Kiriakou can tell you that the Deep State is real… because he was a part of it. It exists. It is real. And it controls a lot more of your life and your government than you may even want to know. So, is there a way to combat it? Can we actually have a democracy while it exists? And how badly will the Deep State react when and if it is seriously challenged? Join John Kiriakou on this episode of The Whistleblowers as he discuss all of this and more with his guest and former CIA analyst Larry Johnson.