In an unintentional crossover episode (Sandhya also hosts a podcast on Avatar the Last Airbender, a cartoon that talks a LOT about the four elements), Kevin talks about the cultural wisdom of his grandmother and how soup and consulting have more in common than you might think.

Kevin John Fong is a cultural translator, community circle facilitator, writer, and founder of the Kahakulei Institute, whose mission is to weave people and possibilities to cultivate communities of belonging.

You can find Kevin on his website at: https://www.kahakulei.com/kevin-john-fong

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