Hosts Jacq Vaca and Brett Lindstrom from Fish and Chips are back as they sit down with Katya Ternopolska, Head of Growth at Wormhole, for a lively and insightful conversation about the human side of crypto and DeFi. Discover Katya's entry into crypto, the importance of real-world connections at conferences, and why bringing more humanity into the crypto space matters. The trio dives into what “DeFi for All” really means—highlighting stories from Latin America, Ukraine, and beyond—and explores how decentralized finance is breaking down barriers for underbanked communities, enabling anyone to earn, save, and build wealth. Whether you’re new to crypto or a seasoned pro, this episode is packed with laughs, personal stories, and a fresh perspective on what makes the industry so exciting and ripe for disruption. Follow Katya: https://x.com/0xKATYA https://x.com/wormhole https://www.linkedin.com/in/katya-ternopolska/