Why do we worship when life feels heavy? What does Christian hope really look like—not as wishful thinking, but as a grounded reality?

In this final episode of The Worship Lab series, we return to the question that kicked off this conversation: Why do we worship? This time, we zoom in on hope: what it is, what it isn’t, and how worship helps anchor us in it, especially when we’re walking through the hard parts of life.

Whether you’re a worship leader crafting setlists or someone who finds it hard to sing right now, this episode reminds us that worship isn’t about ignoring reality—it’s about proclaiming a truer one.

We talk through:

• How hope fuels our worship, even in seasons of pain
• Why singing the full story of God (past, present, and future) matters
• The power of lament and joy in the same space
• What Revelation teaches us about worship and reality
• How worship leaders can help form disciples, not just lead songs

This conversation is both theological and practical, full of real-time reflections and pastoral encouragement. We pray it encourages you to lead and live with bold, honest hope.

What really goes into crafting a Sunday service that’s both Spirit-led and intentionally planned?

In this episode of The Worship Lab, we go behind the scenes to talk about Sunday service flow and how we hold space for the Holy Spirit while also planning with purpose. Whether you're a worship leader, production volunteer, or someone who just loves to gather with the Church each week, this conversation will help you step into Sunday with deeper understanding and greater expectation.

We talk through:

• The journey of a worship set: why flow and structure matter
• How spontaneity and planning aren’t opposites
• Tools we use to stay in sync while staying sensitive to the Spirit
• The value of team discernment in hearing God together
• What response time means for formation, not just production

From set lists and sermon circles, to whispered prompts and lyric cues, this is a look at how we practice the presence of God in the details—trusting that the Spirit is active in both our planning and our pivoting.

What does it really mean to be led by the Holy Spirit in worship?

In this episode of Worship Lab, we dive into the who, what, why, and how of Spirit-led worship—sharing stories, theology, and practical tools to help you cultivate greater awareness and expectation for the presence of God.

Whether you’re a worship leader, team member, or someone simply longing to encounter God more deeply on Sundays, this conversation is for you.

We explore:

• The personhood of the Holy Spirit
• What Scripture says about the Spirit’s role in worship
• How to hold structure and sensitivity to the Spirit
• Real-life moments from Rockharbor gatherings
• How to come expectant—whether you’re leading or sitting in the seats

Join Anna, Luke, and Glenn as we unpack the posture of dependence, discernment, and desire that marks a Spirit-filled worship culture.

What’s really going on when we lift our hands in worship? Why do we kneel, shout, or even sing beyond the song? Is this emotionalism, or is it formation?

In this episode of The Worship Lab, Luke Hellebronth, Anna Hellebronth, and Glenn Packiam open up a deep and practical conversation about postures of worship—not as performance, but as spiritual practice. Grounded in Scripture and rooted in the presence of God, we explore the seven Hebrew words for praise and what they reveal about how worship involves our whole selves: body, mind, and spirit.

Here’s a look at those seven words and what they invite us into: 

• Yadah – To extend the hand, to praise, to give thanks.
  Used to express praise and thanksgiving.
• Shabach – To shout, to address in a loud tone, to command.
  Implies a loud and joyful declaration of praise.
• Towdah – An extension of the hand, thanksgiving, a sacrifice of praise.
  Represents a heartfelt expression of gratitude and praise, often for something not yet received.
• Tehillah – A song of praise, a hymn.
  Refers to a spontaneous song or hymn of praise.
• Barak – To kneel, to bless, to salute.
  Implies a humble and reverent act of adoration.
• Zamar – To make music, to celebrate in song or music.
  Relates to musical expression in praise and worship.
• Halal – To boast, to rave, to shine, to celebrate.
  Implies an exuberant and joyful expression of praise.

This isn’t about hype. It’s about honesty, unity, and formation. Whether you're expressive or contemplative, there's an invitation here to lean into a fuller response to God—authentic, biblical, and embodied.

Worship is more than sound. It's surrender

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What’s really happening when we worship, especially through music? In this episode of The Worship Lab, Luke & Anna Hellebronth and Glenn Packiam explore why singing has been central to the Church’s worship for generations. They talk about how music engages both heart and body, shapes us spiritually, and creates space to encounter the presence of God.

Drawing from their experiences at Rockharbor, they also share what they’ve seen and sensed in times of worship—moments that have stretched them, surprised them, and deepened their hunger for more of God. Alongside reflections from Scripture, they consider what it means to show up fully in worship and why it matters in the life of the Church.

Whether you lead worship, participate on Sundays, or are curious about how worship forms our faith, this conversation will help you see worship as an invitation into transformation.

Welcome to The Worship Lab—a space for thoughtful conversations about worship rooted in the Word and led by the Spirit. In this first episode, hosts Luke and Anna Hellebronth and Glenn Packiam share the heart behind the podcast, how worship has shaped the Rockharbor culture over the years, and their own journeys of following God’s call through seasons of Spirit-led ministry. Together, they name what they’re sensing around worship in this cultural moment and why this podcast matters now.

Whether you’re a worship leader or someone who simply loves to worship, we invite you into this conversation as we pursue worship that leads to encounter, forms us into the likeness of Christ, and sends us out on mission through the Spirit.

Welcome to The Worship Lab—a podcast exploring worship that is rooted in the Word and led by the Spirit. In this series, hosts Luke & Anna Hellebronth and Glenn Packiam will unpack the heart behind worship at Rockharbor, share stories and insights, and offer practical language for worship leaders and church communities. Whether you're part of Rockharbor or listening from afar, we invite you to journey with us as we pursue worship that leads to encounter, formation, and mission.