We are joined by Stephen Meader and Nathan Pepin from the We Need to Talk podcast this week and things are about to get silly, so strap in!

Since we are the most gracious hosts, Stephen is up first and has a pretty outrageous tale of how white people are the worst. He takes us to the Saco River area of Maine in the time of the colonists. White people arrived and were getting along fairly well with the natives of the area, until some bros decided to test the harmful myth that native babies could swim at birth. Well, one thing led to another, and a curse was cast that three white men would die in the river each year until all the white people left its shores.

If you’re still looking for some awfulness, then that’s great because Dreia and Maggie researched the Winchester Mystery House and are excited to tell you all about it. After the deaths of her entire family, Sarah Winchester (of the gun fame, not the Supernatural show fame) moved out to San Jose, CA and began construction on her new home that would last for 38 years. It was rumored that Sarah continued the construction for so long to ensure that angry spirits that had been killed by her family’s guns could never find her in her maze of a house. It was also rumored that Sarah would hold séances and get guidance on how to build the house from friendly spirits. Either way, this house is bananas and we really need to go see it for ourselves.

If you liked listening to Stephen and Nathan, check out their podcast We Need to Talk – it’s available on most podcatchers. You can find them on the online:

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Twitter: @WNTT1

Thanks for listening this week!