Lily Janiak talks to local magician, storyteller, solo performer and now San Francisco Ghost Hunt Walking Tour guide Christian Cagigal. We talk about how he got into leading tourists, local history buffs and fans of the supernatural on a one-mile nighttime jaunt through Pacific Heights, some of the lore he shares along the way, whether ghosts are real, what makes a good ghost story, and why so many ghost stories happen to take place in Pac Heights.

Produced by Lily Janiak. Music by Steven Boyle.

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