Thelma Plum is on the phone (thank Melbourne's horrible weather for that wonderful phone line quality, real nice) with Sas and Matilda to talk all things 'Better in Blak', Plum's long anticipated debut album. As a young Gamilaraay woman, Plum speaks on her experience living in this country and creating a record filled with pivotal storytelling and triumphant pop music that features the likes of Dave Le'aupepe, Paul Kelly and Paul McCartney. 

Originally aired Wednesday 17 July 2019 on SYN. 

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