Joel and Dave discuss why theology is central to the purpose of the university.  John Henry Newman argues pursuing knowledge demands theology – it ‘enters into every order’, he writes.  Spit-balling on this theme, Joel and Dave consider how theological claims are always present in the university, even when theology is consciously excluded.  Why then is Jerusalem integral to Athens? And why is Athens integral to Jerusalem?  Will Dave ever be absolved of his Calvinist sins? Short answer: no.