In this episode, Payton and Shayla revisit a fan-favorite topic from their very first—and still one of their most popular—episodes: The Theory of Ghosts. Two years later, they reflect on how some of their perspectives have shifted, while others remain as grounded as ever. They dive deep into the nature of ghosts, ghouls, evil spirits, and dark entities, questioning whether these beings are real or if they’re manifestations born from human fear and negative energy.

The conversation opens up thought-provoking ideas about how our own emotional and energetic states might play a role in creating or attracting these experiences. Plus, Payton shares his recent connection with an incredible Oracle Deck creator and offers a sneak peek into her powerful upcoming project—along with a hint that she'll be a future guest on the show.

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Shayla Within This Life

Payton Blue Heron Medium

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