"I had to recognize that I had been wholehearted in my parenting. And that you are a different human being with your own brain and your own choices. (that was healthy for me, and that was hard to do)." -Vicki

This is the most raw and vulnerable we've been to date. Counseling has been instrumental in our relationship. Quite honestly, it is a big part of the reason we are close enough for this podcast to even exist. What REALLY happens when Daughter begins to differentiate from Mom - and doesn't do it kindly. We can tell you from experience...