Tina Tchen began her White House tenure in 2009 as the Director of Public Engagement before serving as Assistant to President Obama and Chief of Staff to the First Lady from 2011 to 2017. She talks about what it was like to be behind the scenes in the West and East Wings during the Obama administration working closely with President and Mrs. Obama, and what their legacies will mean to history.

“There is nothing that defines the role of First Lady,” A Conversation with Tina Tchen on how Mrs. Obama carved out her role as First Lady

When President Lyndon Baines Johnson dedicated his presidential library in 1971, he declared, "It's all here, the story of our time—with the bark off." Since then, in keeping with his vision, the LBJ Library has been a forum for the biggest names and best minds of our day to address the issues of our time.
 
This season of With the Bark Off offers a critical examination of the 45 men who have led our nation and the evolution of America’s highest office. Preeminent historians and authors take us behind-the-scenes and share revealing insights on presidents from George Washington to Joe Biden.
 
With the Bark Off is a production of the LBJ Foundation and each biweekly episode will be hosted by Mark A. Lawrence, Director of the LBJ Presidential Library, author, and prominent scholar on American politics and foreign policy; or Mark K. Updegrove, President and CEO of the LBJ Foundation, author, and ABC News presidential historian.

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When President Lyndon Baines Johnson dedicated his presidential library in 1971, he declared, "It's all here, the story of our time—with the bark off." Since then, in keeping with his vision, the LBJ Library has been a forum for the biggest names and best minds of our day to address the issues of our time. This season of With the Bark Off offers a critical examination of the 45 men who have led our nation and the evolution of America’s highest office. Preeminent historians and authors take us behind-the-scenes and share revealing insights on presidents from George Washington to Joe Biden. With the Bark Off is a production of the LBJ Foundation and each biweekly episode will be hosted by Mark A. Lawrence, Director of the LBJ Presidential Library, author, and prominent scholar on American politics and foreign policy; or Mark K. Updegrove, President and CEO of the LBJ Foundation, author, and ABC News presidential historian.

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“There is nothing that defines the role of First Lady,” A Conversation with Tina Tchen on how Mrs. Obama carved out her role as First Lady

“There is nothing that defines the role of First Lady,” A Conversation with Tina Tchen on how Mrs. Obama carved out her role as First Lady

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