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There's No "One Way" To Do Sales ft. Alan Ruchtein
In today's episode, I chat with Alan Ruchtein from The Modern Seller Program about building go-to-market strategies from the ground up.
We dive deep into his process for understanding client businesses before touching any tools, exploring how he creates buyer persona matrices that map challenges, symptoms, and KPIs for different decision-makers. Alan shares his philosophy on why fundamentals trump tactics, explaining the critical mistake of jumping straight to tools like Clay without proper foundation work. We discuss his experience scaling teams at companies like Revolut and Landbot, the evolution of his messaging frameworks, and why he believes there's no single "right way" to do sales. Alan also shares his thoughts on AI's role in the future of sales.
Enjoy 🙂
(00:00) Introduction to Outbound Wizards
(00:21) What the Modern Seller Program Does
(02:07) Alan's Client Onboarding Process
(03:30) Understanding Product-Market Fit First
(04:30) Buyer Persona Matrix Framework
(07:42) Messaging Strategy and Copy Development
(08:30) Multiple Approaches to Outbound Success
(11:55) Tools and Tech Stack Recommendations
(12:50) The Minimum Viable Product Approach
(14:45) Why Tools Don't Replace Strategy
(15:17) Common Mistakes: Jumping to Execution Too Fast
(16:18) Alan's Background and Journey
(17:39) Near-Death Experience and Moving to Barcelona
(19:11) Career Path: Landbot, Revolut, and Going Solo
(21:49) Future of AI in Sales and Go-to-Market
(23:24) Closing and How to Connect
🔗 CONNECT WITH ALAN
🔗 CONNECT WITH SAURAV
🎥 YouTube Channel
🐦 X (Twitter)
💻 Website
👥 LinkedIn
📧 Email - [email protected]
🙏 LEAVE A REVIEW If you enjoyed listening to the podcast, we'd love for you to leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts to help others discover the show :)
👋🏼 GET IN TOUCH You can also reach out with any feedback, ideas or thoughts about the lessons you've learned from the episodes.
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By Saurav GuptaIn today's episode, I chat with Alan Ruchtein from The Modern Seller Program about building go-to-market strategies from the ground up.
We dive deep into his process for understanding client businesses before touching any tools, exploring how he creates buyer persona matrices that map challenges, symptoms, and KPIs for different decision-makers. Alan shares his philosophy on why fundamentals trump tactics, explaining the critical mistake of jumping straight to tools like Clay without proper foundation work. We discuss his experience scaling teams at companies like Revolut and Landbot, the evolution of his messaging frameworks, and why he believes there's no single "right way" to do sales. Alan also shares his thoughts on AI's role in the future of sales.
Enjoy 🙂
(00:00) Introduction to Outbound Wizards
(00:21) What the Modern Seller Program Does
(02:07) Alan's Client Onboarding Process
(03:30) Understanding Product-Market Fit First
(04:30) Buyer Persona Matrix Framework
(07:42) Messaging Strategy and Copy Development
(08:30) Multiple Approaches to Outbound Success
(11:55) Tools and Tech Stack Recommendations
(12:50) The Minimum Viable Product Approach
(14:45) Why Tools Don't Replace Strategy
(15:17) Common Mistakes: Jumping to Execution Too Fast
(16:18) Alan's Background and Journey
(17:39) Near-Death Experience and Moving to Barcelona
(19:11) Career Path: Landbot, Revolut, and Going Solo
(21:49) Future of AI in Sales and Go-to-Market
(23:24) Closing and How to Connect
🔗 CONNECT WITH ALAN
🔗 CONNECT WITH SAURAV
🎥 YouTube Channel
🐦 X (Twitter)
💻 Website
👥 LinkedIn
📧 Email - [email protected]
🙏 LEAVE A REVIEW If you enjoyed listening to the podcast, we'd love for you to leave a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts to help others discover the show :)
👋🏼 GET IN TOUCH You can also reach out with any feedback, ideas or thoughts about the lessons you've learned from the episodes.