<p>David and Marshall talk before and (16:31) after the Detroit Lions' dismantling of the Dallas Cowboys on the road, in a vivid display of the effects enduring decades of losing can have on our psyches. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"</p>

David and Marshall talk before and (16:31) after the Detroit Lions' dismantling of the Dallas Cowboys on the road, in a vivid display of the effects enduring decades of losing can have on our psyches. Theme music: Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist, "Blowin Steam (Open Up Your Mind)"

"These guys are pattern-breakers"

We're master relationship coach Marshall Zweig and commercial artist David Hughes: longtime friends, and long-suffering fans of the Detroit Lions—a team synonymous our entire lives with losing.

Well...they used to be.

SHIT2GRIT℠ is about getting hurt, about opening back up, about shedding old perspectives and adopting new ones.

For us, football is a chance to go deep.

Join our friendship as we explore memories, debrief experiences, master communication…and root for the team in Honolulu blue. | marshallzweig.com/shit2grit | @2023 Zweig/Hughes | WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE

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We're master relationship coach Marshall Zweig and commercial artist David Hughes: longtime friends, and long-suffering fans of the Detroit Lions—a team synonymous our entire lives with losing. Well...they used to be. SHIT2GRIT℠ is about getting hurt, about opening back up, about shedding old perspectives and adopting new ones. For us, football is a chance to go deep. Join our friendship as we explore memories, debrief experiences, master communication…and root for the team in Honolulu blue. | marshallzweig.com/shit2grit | @2023 Zweig/Hughes | WARNING: ADULT LANGUAGE

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