They Assume We Know Nothing Podcast

By Caitlin Apple and Kitty Packman

A Taylor Swift fan podcast deep diving into the many eras, lyrical analyses, and so much more. Join two Swifties, who have been there since the start, to ride the waves of all the emotions behind Tayl... more

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The podcast currently has 29 episodes available.

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July 02, 2025028. It's been a long time coming...
026. It's been a long time coming...

Welcome back! The girls are back (finally) and sharing their thoughts on Taylor Swift updates in 2025 (so far!) and chiming in with some personal updates as well.

This episode covers:
Taylor at Tulula's garden in Philly
Taylor owning her masters
Taylor and Travis sightings
Personal updates and more!

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing
instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod
Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.
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41min
November 22, 2024027. Taylor Swift Games (Kitty’s Version)
027. Taylor Swift Games (Kitty’s Version)

A fun episode today with the girls! Kitty came up with Taylor Swift related questions that has both hosts going a little deeper into Taylor Swift’s life, lyrics, and discography. What are your answers to these questions? The girls want to know!

This episode covers:
Which Taylor lyric best describes you?

If you had to eliminate one TS album, which would it be?

Which of Taylor’s previous relationships do you feel shaped her the most?

Best song off of evermore for the cold/winter months ?

What genre of music do you most want Taylor’s next album to be?

Which album font do you think is more iconic: reputation or Debut?

If you could hear Taylor play one song live just for you, what would it be?

Make a ridiculous Debutation prediction (for either album or both)?

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing

instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod
Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.
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57min
November 14, 2024026. The Way I Loved You- A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis
The Way I Loved You

Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing The Way I Loved You, a powerful soliloquy so relatable when you just don't feel that "Spark" in a relationship, even though the seem perfect on paper.

This episode covers:
How love and lust differentiate

Taylor's description of The Way I Loved you

Kitty and Cait's personal connections to the depiction of a relationship in this song

A break down lyric by lyric of Taylor Swift's The Way I Love you song from the album Fearless.

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
⁠tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing⁠

⁠instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod⁠
Email Us: [email protected]
Follow us:
Kitty's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/kittypackman⁠

Cait's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple⁠

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
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1h 2min
October 31, 2024025. You’re Not Sorry- A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis
Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing You’re Not Sorry, one of Taylor’s underrated ballads. A relatable take on a relationship that you choose to end before it ends you.

This episode covers:
The Era’s Tour quick recap discussing surprise songs, Debutation, and easter eggs.

History and statements made during the release You’re Not Sorry and it’s ranking on the charts

Breaking down You’re not Sorry lyrics and how difficult and necessary it is to leave someone that has hurt you too many times

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing

instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod
Email Us: [email protected]
Follow us:
Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
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1h 5min
October 24, 2024024. 25 Taylor Swift Songs That Give Disney Vibes x Spiritually Ever After
In this crossover episode with Spiritually Ever After, Kitty dives into the 25 Taylor Swift songs that give her Disney vibes. Some of them may be a stretch, but isn’t the whole point to live in fantasy?! We’re all mad here.

This episode covers:
25 Taylor Swift songs that have references to, or similarities with, Disney movies

Kitty trying to hold back from talking about recent clothing and surprise song choices at the Miami Eras Tour shows

Kitty accidentally thinking Ed Sheeran was on “Today Was A Fairytale”… \

An admission of guilt that Kitty has not yet seen Toy Story 4

The two ways you can interpret “mad woman” (and why both are right)

Resources:Taylor x Disney playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4POo6YMbV2yrbz4wRtzTOJ?si=fBiN1txxRG2_sCMkY0Tfig&pi=u-I9eC86zSRu-9

Join the TAWKN community: • ⁠tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing⁠ • ⁠instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod⁠

Join the SEA community: • tiktok.com/@spirituallyeverafter• instagram.com/spiritually_everafter

Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us: Kitty's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/kittypackman⁠
Cait's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple⁠

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
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22min
October 17, 2024023. Tell Me Why-A Lyrical Analysis of Taylor Swift
023. Tell Me Why-A Lyrical Analysis of Taylor Swift

TRIGGER WARNING:
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In this episode Kitty and Cait discuss the very serious topic of toxic relationships in connection to the Taylor Swift song "Tell Me Why". Kitty and Cait share their view points and discuss mental health, abusive relationships, and how things aren't black and white when it happens.
This episode covers:
Lyric by lyric analysis of "Tell Me Why" by Taylor Swift

A deeper understanding of toxic dynamics in relationships

Discussing topics like gaslighting, manipulation, and love-bombing

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
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Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
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1h 9min
October 10, 2024022. Breathe-A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis
022. Breathe-A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis

Today Cait and Kitty breathe through the simplistic yet powerful lyrics of the song "Breathe" from the Taylor Swift Album "Fearless." Tune is as the girls share their thoughts and feelings as they make their way through the song lyric by lyric.

This episode covers:
Rumors and concepts around the basis behind the song

What Taylor Swift shared publically about Breathe

Breaking down the lyrics of Breathe lyric by lyric and discussing the meanings
Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
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Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
...more
1h 2min
October 03, 2024021. Taylor Swift Top Songs on Every Album (non-romantic related)
021. Taylor Swift Top Songs on Every Album (non-romantic related)

Today Cait and Kitty go through each album chronologically and pick out some of their NUMBER ONE FAVORITE TAYLOR SWIFT SONG that has little or nothing to do with love, heartbreak, heartache, and romantic feelings (or lack there of). Here Kitty and Cait's different takes and opinions.

This episode covers:
A break down of Kitty and Cait's favorite songs on every album in Taylor Swift's Discography
-Taylor Swift (debut), Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989, Reputation, Folklore, Evermore, Midnights, Tortured Poets Department
-How we differentiated between a romantically based song and different themes

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing

instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod
Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
...more
1h 12min
September 26, 2024020. You Belong with Me-A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis
020. You Belong with Me- A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis

Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing about You Belong with Me, one of Taylor’s long standing bops, but do the lyrics and story behind it stand the test of time? Click play and find out!

This episode covers:
The impact You Belong with Me has on the Taylor Swift discography

History and statements made during the release of You Belong with Me

Discussing the “pick me” mentality and the misogyny and Taylor’s growth in this aspect

Breaking down You Belong with Me lyric by lyric and discuss their meanings

Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing

instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod
Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.
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1h 9min
September 12, 2024019. Taylor Swift Sightings, News, and Updates
019. Taylor Swift News and updates!
The girls are back! We have come together after a cruel but incredible summer and we’re excited to catch up on all the updates in the Taylor Swift Universe. We deep dive into the latest Taylor sightings, the “PR leak”, and the end of the Era’s tour around the corner.

This episode covers:
Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris

Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce being a PR Relationship

How legitimate or not is the “breakup strategy” leak for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce

The imminent end of the Era’s Tour in December and what might be next

Taylor Swift’s re-recordings still yet to be released
Resources:
Join the TAWKN community:
tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing

instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod
Email Us: [email protected]

Follow us:

Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman

Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple

This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own
...more
48min

FAQs about They Assume We Know Nothing Podcast:

How many episodes does They Assume We Know Nothing Podcast have?

The podcast currently has 29 episodes available.