What if “they” isn’t someone else? What if they is me?

In this thought-provoking episode, Michelle explores thepowerful idea of “refugia responsibility” inspired by the concept of refuge spaces in nature after the eruption of Mount St. Helens. From climate change to potholes to everyday human connection, this conversation challenges us to stopwaiting for someone else to fix the world and instead become the small refuge someone else may need today. It’s a heartfelt reminder that even the smallest actions can create healing, hope, and change.

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