This week we chat with Bessie Sullivan, CEO of Orillia Public Library and get her top five reasons why libraries should go fine free, and why we should be challenging the power structure in libraries and start examining the principals of our profession. We close our conversation with a brand new (and as yet unnamed) segment where we pebble our guest with a series of rapid-fire questions that help us get to know the person outside of the library. 

References from this week's conversation:

Things Are Not Fine: Fines in the Library by Bessie Sullivan

Fines & Fees, Customer Experience Update from Hamilton Public Library 

Overdue Fines: Advantages, Disadvantages, and How Eliminating Them Can Benefit Public Libraries, by Sabrina Unrein

Bessie recommends the read Tin Man by Sarah Winman