This episode is a cracker. I speak with Janieke de Graaf, Mum of two neurodivergent humans who also happens to be a neurodivergent human too.

We talk about connection, what it looks like to connect with our ND kids and how important it is for their felt sense of safety.

There is so much gold in this kōrero, I'm excited to share it.

Janieke is also a behaviour specialist with Explore, however, she speaks from the perspective of her lived experience in our interview.