Failing 2 years of high school, the Co-founder of Surreal Co., our favorite psychiatrist proves that failing constantly doesn't define you but what matters is that you never give up and strive towards achieving your goals. while Rafay who just turned 24, started indulging in dad jokes to cope up with the fact he's getting old.

In this episode, Saud and Rafay disagree on having a less chaotic life, discuss maintaining balance and sticking to a routine while discussing the book "Think like a monk".