There are many sources of "information" in the real estate industry—for investors and agents alike. But while many of those sources teach and spread a similar message, there are a select few change agents in the industry who truly think differently. In this episode, Jeff interviews Justin Stoddart, author of The Upstream Model, and host of The Think Bigger Real Estate podcast. Justin is a long-time real estate professional who has a powerful message to share about how to think differently—and bigger—to make a difference and build a stronger business. In this conversation, Jeff and Justin discuss what it means to do uncomfortable things, how to stop living below your potential and how to harness the idea that your next client is someone else's current client.