Hi Thinkers!

Is Thinking Out Loud more on the fun side of the podcast scene or is it more serious? You'll find the answer in the intro before we jump straight to round 2 (that's right!) to discuss the difference between citizens and mere population. What seems like a pretty straightforward question for Jedrek, turns out to be a gateway to a much more serious conversation about the rights and duties of citizens. Anyway, we hope that despite the caliber of the topic it's still fun listening to us! ;)

The link to The Ezra Klein Show episode with Marianne Wolf (about reading): https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Qx2Of2ZLyx4By71F70YAI?si=94ed93b98c934955

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