Hi thinkers!

This week Masha interviews Jedrek Stepien who has just came back from Barcelona where he delivered a plenary speech at the Innovate ELT 2023 conference. Jedrek develops some of his thoughts from his speech and dives into the future of education. This episode is our 50th and it marks also the end of season 4. Thank you for staying with us, and we hope you are ready for more in season 5 ;)

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