Poet Laureate Simon Armitage and composer Gavin Bryars consider what happens when their respective art forms are brought together.

They discuss the pleasures and perils of crossing between the two disciplines, with excerpts from their work woven throughout, including tracks by Armitage’s post rock/ambient outfit LYR, and Bryars’ influential 1971 work Jesus’ Blood Never Failed Me Yet.

Chaired by Dr Kimberly Campanello of the University of Leeds.