Third Way Executive Vice President for Policy Jim Kessler on championing modern centre left ideas, not jumping on the progressive bandwagon, the most divisive political issue he has worked on, how to tackle gun violence in America, navigating through the partisan maze of Congress to turn legislation into law, Third Way's new Cyber Enforcement Initiative and the 2020 Democratic primary. 

You can find out more about Jim Kessler on Twitter @ThirdWayKessler and the work of the Third Way think tank at www.ThirdWay.org. 

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