Laurel Hubbard has been selected to represent New Zealand in the next Olympics. This will make Laurel the first trans woman to compete as a woman.

We have a chat about 2 articles that were written about the news - Is this a fair decision? What is the underlying issue with Laurel's admission? How do we view trans people in our own lives?

Happy to be joined by our correspondent Lauaki Masima.

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