In this episode of the AXPONA Audio Insider Podcast, Lenny Florentine sits down with Joe from Tributaries and Clarus Cables—and doesn’t hold back. From asking whether high-end cables are just snake oil to pressing for the real science behind the sound, this conversation isn’t your typical soft-ball interview. Joe shares his incredible journey from managing a legendary Mac dealer in the '70s to launching a cable company built not on hype, but on engineering, patents, and proof. You’ll hear how he challenged the industry status quo, worked directly with Jay Victor, and redefined how cables can impact music listening.