This episode was supposed to go one way… and immediately went another.

What started as a normal conversation quickly turned into a full-blown deep dive into phobias -- specifically flying insects, spiders, and the kind of irrational fear that somehow feels completely justified in the moment.

From unexpected encounters to full-on panic reactions, we share stories that prove sometimes it’s not fear… it’s survival.

If you’ve ever questioned why bugs exist or found yourself reacting way louder than necessary, this one’s for you.