This episode is a reset.

Lainie returns for a rare, mostly unedited conversation that unfolds like a masterclass in letting go. Her new book, Hold Nothing: An Invitation to Let Go and Come Home to Yourself, left us reflecting (and crying!) long after we finished — and questioning what we carry that no longer serves us.

We explore what it really means to “hold nothing,” how presence and stillness shape the way we think and relate, and why friendship, service, and trust steady the nervous system. We talk about grief, parenting, spiritual health, and the small, deliberate shifts that change how we move through the world.

If you’re heading into a new year looking for clarity, steadiness, and perspective, this conversation is worth everything.

And of course, we asked her to play along with us and comment on some tricks and trends for 2026.

Find Lainie here:

https://elenabrower.substack.com/p/when-friendship-cracked-me-open

Find her book on Amazon, and we strongly suggest you also download the audiobook to hear the content in Lainie's actual voice.

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