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Kathi and Mike take a detour from our regular topics to call out hate. Neither of us can stand what we witnessed at Madison Square Garden over the weekend and we feel we must speak up. Both of us were shocked to see a so-called automotive influencer on the stage spewing hate, whether or not he says he wasn’t does not change what we witnessed. 

We’ve crossed a line, folks and it’s time to get back to civility both in our discourse and in how we treat our fellow humans. We are all in this together.

Music segment:

Oingo Boingo: Dead Man’s Party

Oingo Boingo | Live at US Festival ’83 | May 28, 1983

Podcast recommendation: Politickin' with Gavin Newsom, Marshawn Lynch, and Doug Hendrickson 
An unexpected collaboration: California Governor Gavin Newsom, Super Bowl Champion Marshawn “Beast Mode” Lynch, and their friend and agent Doug Hendrickson are Politickin’.

Gavin Newsom like you’ve never heard him and Marshawn Lynch exactly how you’d expect him.

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