To celebrate their 40th episode, Trudy and Lisa are joined by “apprentice crone” Cody Dub to discuss entering the “second trimester” of life. What does it mean to be middle aged? Why is camaraderie between women so important? And how do women manage the squeeze of living in the “sandwich generation”? 

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• (01:30) - Welcome Cody Dub

--From This Episode–

The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell

Radical Acceptance, Radical Compassion by Tara Brach

You’re Wrong About podcast hosted by Sarah Marshall 

--Credits-- 

Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin 

Produced by Odvod Media

Audio Engineering by Steve Glen

Original music by Darrin Hagen