In the first episode of the 67 podcast, Shauna McCarthy discusses an article on Brexit written by Sir John Sawers for Edelman’s 67 magazine with Will Walden, Edelman London’s Head of Public Affairs and former adviser to Boris Johnson and Lucy Thomas, Edelman Associate Director and former deputy director for Britain Stronger in Europe. We also hear from Peter Tufano, Dean of Said Business School in Oxford, as he discusses the need for “decent” leadership.