“My Dude Leo” discussion.
Beans got stuck in a tree.
How to write a song together.
Luke is developing a sound.
Threading songs together like recurring characters or themes.
Closing the book on something - 95%.
“Fuckin’ durrrty” for example.
Ready to walk away from some songs, some are living documents.
“La cienega” + “exactly” are done, “rent free” is WIP.
Search for meaning as an obstacle.
Strategy, mission, goals.
Luke’s POV on what we’re doing.
10 ways to be miserable as an artist.
Luke will create a record label.
Luke’s Spotify playlists.
Finding people who share our tastes.
How do i get interested in things.
People who we wanna fuck with, like Terry Gross + Rick Rubin.
The Bootlegger audience, creating with audience in mind.
Luke wants to make this a career.
Luke talks Dim Mak, Steve, “the new noise.”
Steering committee, target demo.
The audience is younger than the artist.
Pop music discussion, cut thru the zeitgeist.
“Fuckin’ durrrty” discussion.
Indie rock is independent again.
Luke’s answer is to get an acoustic guitar and beat the hell out of it.
How luke wrote in alison poole vs. now.
Timeless artists like springsteen, tweedy, malkmus.
How far to take the demos?
Billie Eilish documentary - home recording.
Whitney houston, Bruce springsteen.
Luke + ryan music history together.
Luke reveals that he moved to columbia to be in a band with Ryan.
Luke’s early days in columbia, Steak N Shake, Jesse, Mike.
Ryan wasn’t doing music at the time, not on the same page.
Ryan was just writing about that time period.
Viletto comes along, luke felt that ryan ignored him.
Ryan doesn’t remember talking about being in a band in columbia.
Took for granted that luke was in columbia.Ryan recalls luke in columbia, no AC.
We didn’t hang out that much, Luke was lonely.
Luke’s back story of moving to columbia, why he stayed.
Washing dishes, going to back to college.
Back into music business, intern at blue note + dim mak.
Luke’s last semester in columbia.
Uncle tupelo, Pixies, Strokes, White Stripes.
Arcade Fire at Mojos - best show he’s ever seen.
“Create music that opens people’s minds to music.”
Closeness now vs. when we lived close by.
ryan/eli similar to luke/ryan - move to columbia then abandoned.
Mike watt’s house in pedro, similar to luke’s bungalow.
Luke’s old friend who played 90s covers.
how/why luke formed his first band.
Creative energy is fundamental to who we are.
The healthiest coping mechanism.
Ryan’s 10,000 hours: drums, video, baseball.
Ryan is a terrible fisherman.
Find the things that are you and lean into them.
As opposed to being a blank canvas for girls to paint on.
Luke put in 10,000 hours chasing girls.
“The john coltrane of hitting on girls at bars.”
Concept album / songs about our shared experiences.
Song about our summer living together on W. Washington St.
Ryan has been writing about college years
Ryan called luke “naive” in ‘98-’99.
Interrupted by neighbor’s mariachi band.
Remembering exact quotes.
luke called BS on ryan lowering his sights.
Chasing for the ideal vs. finding happiness / home life.
Ryan’s song “Bread and Pepper.”
Ryan added old songs to the Drive.
Schnitzel afraid of mariachi band.
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