In this episode, I sit down with two absolute legends of the jungle and drum and bass scene  Brockie & Det. Its no exaggeration to say this is a DJ & MC duo who helped shape the sound and spirit of an entire culture and this conversation goes far beyond the usual history. We explore their foundations in pirate radio, the raw energy of early raves, their unique chemistry on stage, the dark side that came with jungle in terms of gangs and guns and what it really takes to build longevity in such a demanding scene. From discipline and personal growth to the evolution of Djing and MCing, this was a wicked conversation with two artists that truly deserve their legendary status