In this heartfelt conversation, Pastor Stephanie and Dr. Erica Jewel talk about what it truly looks like to try to live holy when life, background, circumstances, and growth are still in progress. They explore the reality that everyone’s effort does not come wrapped in perfection, polish, or “church culture,” yet God honors the sincere heart that is pressing toward Him. This episode challenges the church to create space for imperfect effort, compassion, and grace so people can grow without feeling shamed or disqualified.

What We Talk About:

• Why “trying” doesn’t always look church-ready or put together
• The danger of judging someone’s effort by outward appearance
• Remembering that what is small to us may feel enormous for someone else
• Allowing people room to mature without crushing their effort
• How God looks at the heart, while people often only see presentation
• Encouraging believers to keep trying, even when it feels imperfect