Welcome to the first full episode of Perspectives On: Catalan Independence. And where better to begin than with the law?

This week, we’re joined by Dr. Núria González Campaña — a constitutional law expert, legal scholar, and, quite literally, the person who wrote the book on secession and EU law. From the constitutional rigidity of Spain, to comparisons with the UK, Canada, and Italy, we explore the legal foundations that underpin — and complicate — Catalonia’s independence ambitions.

In this conversation, Dr. González Campaña walks us through:

• Why the Spanish constitution makes secession almost impossible (but not quite),
• What happened legally in 2017 — and why that referendum was, in her words, “absolutely illegal,”
• How the EU navigates (or avoids) unilateral independence,
• The deeper distinction between nationalism and democracy,
• And why “if you don’t like the law, change the law” is both the simplest and hardest answer.

This one lays the groundwork. If you’re wondering what the rules of the game are — and why it matters who gets to change them — start here.

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Host: Paul Green

Producer: Barry Carney

Intro/Outro and background Music: Jazzy Swimming (Royalty Free)

Interlude Music: T Kleyn Music

Cover Artwork: Andrea Z. Scharf

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