It’s been a busy summer, venturing out-and-about to talk to brilliant people in their special places.

But let’s rewind the clock a little: to a chilly Sunday morning in late spring. The daffodils are giving way to bluebells, and we’re heading down to the river - to walk along the banks of the Ouse, and hear about how this podcast came about.

Produced with the support of Arts Council England. With music by Rob T and Danny Booth.

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