This episode stars Brian Alan Ellis and Bud Smith (King Shit, Tables Without Chairs #1, F250, House of Vlad, Unknown Press). It was recorded* over the Skype between the This Podcast Will Change Your Life corporate offices in Chicago, IL and Ellis' home in Tallahassee, FL Smith's home in Washington Height, NY in February 2016.

*With apologies for the glitchy volume during the first several minutes. It gets addressed. Promise.